2021 Moontower Series
2021 Moontower, in its 10th year, came back strong with a roster of 4 full days of comedy, film, live podcast, and foosballing. We're featuring our favorite conversations from this year's festival this month. Enjoy!
Our last 2021 Moontower Interview is a feather in our cap - the first press interview for this duo after the first press screening of Joy Ride.
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Every once in a while in this crazy podcasting comedy website business, an honor is bestowed upon you that is so great you have to pinch yourself to make sure you haven’t drifted into a beautiful dream.
Such a moment came to my podcast partner/editor Valerie Lopez and myself when we found ourselves in the belly of the Paramount Theater, tucked away in a dressing room interviewing Bobcat Goldthwait and Dana Gould…at the same time! What?! How? Goldthwait and Gould had just finished screening the première of their new film Joy Ride here at the Moontower Comedy Festival. Prior to this screening, neither had seen the entire finished product, let alone with an audience. Here comes a second pinch me moment. Ours was the first interview given about the film.
So what is Joy Ride? I’m so glad you asked. Gould describes it as a “Docucomedy”, which chronicles the pair taking a roadtrip as they tour the United States together doing their Show With Two Heads. But the road from their beginnings in comedy to this tour was far from fahrvergnügen (don’t sue us, VW).
Goldthwait and Gould had quite the adversarial relationship coming up in the Boston Comedy scene. Gould found himself going as far as to walk the other way if he saw Goldthwait walking down the street. Looking back, both agree that their differences were as much about their similarities than anything else. Goldthwait was a close childhood friend of Tom Kenny, who you may know as SpongeBob SquarePants. Kenny also happened to be friends with Dana Gould. Goldthwait says he thinks the animosity began because he perceived Gould to be “derivative” of Tom Kenny. Goldthwait says, “Let’s go and think why am I attacking him? Oh, oh, sometimes you’re [Goldthwait] derivative of Tom Kenny.” Gould was merely reflecting a familiar insecurity.
You know it's good when the glasses come off! (Photo by Lara Smith)
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It’s no wonder Gould would eventually turn that animosity into a close friendship. As they both describe the brutality of the 80’s Boston comedy scene, Gould refers to it as a “breath of fresh air” compared to his upbringing. Time and finding their own style and place in comedy seemed to help bridge the gap. For Goldthwait, a notoriously irreverent talk show guest (Exhibit 1: search for “Tonight Show fire”), that would come in finding his happier place behind the camera.
The two now work so well together, you’d never believe they had such a rocky start. There’s a warmth and admiration between them you can sense from just being in the same room.
But before I paint a picture of Joy Ride as some serious “coming to terms” documentary, I have to tell you it is also hilarious. Perhaps it was the atmosphere of being at Moontower, but there were moments of the film where I forgot I wasn’t watching live standup. I think the audience felt the same. As Gould observes, “What I couldn’t tell was, what was laughter on the soundtrack and what was laughter in the theater.” You will lose yourself in this film, thus making Joy Ride the perfect description.
What I couldn't tell was, what was laughter on the soundtrack and what was laughter in the theater.
Dana Gould
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With Goldthwait taking on the task of director as well as doing some of the editing, he said during the post-screening Q&A that he realized a natural villain would emerge in this story and unfortunately it had to be him. I respectfully disagree. I think a new villain emerges in Joy Ride and it’s neither Goldthwait nor Gould. You’ll have to watch for yourself and decide. Either way, I promise you you’ll enjoy the ride.
Joy Ride is in theaters October 29th and available on iTunes for streaming
Bobcat Goldthwait & Dana Gould (Photo by Sheila Kenny)
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Bobcat can be seen and heard:
- Seriously, just search his name and you’ll find plenty — everything from radio, TV, and movies!
Dana can be seen and heard:
- Ditto + The Dana Gould Hour podcast
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